Monty the Answer Man 
      Archive   Swift 
        Speed Secrets 
          FASTER, FASTER, 
        FASTER!!!  (010200) 
        From: Steve Wetherbee <wasinc@northpro.net> 
        Monty, Some more Swift questions: Do you or someone in the organization 
        have any lists of other speed mods both approved and unapproved and as 
        to how much speed is gained for each mod? We are thinking about the flap 
        gap seals, are they worth the no paperwork risk? How about a retractable 
        tailwheel? I have closed up the tailwheel opening but haven't flown it 
        since. This one also has stock wingtips, I like the looks of them but 
        wondering about why people take them off? I also was going to go to the 
        sliding canopy but sounds like no one knows what happened to the guy that 
        now has the STC. Do you know anything about that. One more what can be 
        done to move or go to a electric trim? Steve 
        Steve:  
        I don't think gap seals do any good. A retractable t/w may help if you're 
        in the 180 mph range -- but below that I don't think you'd, notice any 
        difference. I don't know what's going on with the canopy STC -- electric 
        trim is included in the canopy STC. Read the links from the Swift Home 
        Page. The stock tips are the best, the Bonanza tips really cut down on 
        the r/c altho they may be a tad faster. Mostly the stock tips get removed 
        because of cosmetic reasons -- they get dented up. I have copies of one-time 
        field approvals for electric trim. Some of the biggest "speed secrets" 
        are to tighten up the wing bands (tape underneath) and put seals ahead 
        of the elevators/rudder and above the flaps/ailerons (like foam seals) 
        to minimize air movement thru these areas. After you get up to, say, 160K 
        or 180 mph it gets harder and harder to gain more. You can always try 
        to reduce the empty weight. Read the Home Page for STC's available. -- 
        Jim 
        "STRIP SHOW"... 
        (010300) 
        Subject: Re: Swift speed 
        From: wasinc@northpro.net 
        Monty,  
        Flew the swift late this afternoon both double occ. and solo but pretty 
        full of gas, the side to side yaw seems to be gone and airspeed shows 
        185 at 25/25 Gps showed about 178, did notice that the wing to center 
        section straps were flying" pretty good even though we just tightened 
        them today. What is the best way to hold them down flat. You also mentioned 
        foam between ailerons/flaps and tail surfaces, could you explain that 
        in more detail like what kind of foam. Is this air pressure in the wing 
        making those strips fly up? and the foam blocks some of that? Temp was 
        about zero so speed could be from that difference since last flight of 
        28 degrees. I just bought a digital camera so when I figure it out I will 
        send you a picture. Steve 
        Steve, 
        The gap strips "flying up" are one of the biggest potential drag producers 
        on the Swift. That area has a really low pressure, I've had them so tight 
        you could hardly pry them up, and the next flight they rode up considerably. 
        With them off, tape up the gap between the wing and center section, the 
        reinstall the gap strip. You can even make the upper surface of the gap 
        strip semi-permanent by application of some sealant, (over tape) they 
        vary somewhat, sometimes you just have to install some screws to hold 
        them down. The foam seals I mentioned can be made out of common hardware 
        store foam that they sell for insulating doors, windows etc. (3M or whatever) 
        They sell it in rolls, 3/8"x 1/2" or whatever fits between your wing upper 
        trailing edge and the aileron or flap. It is best installed with the surface 
        off with contact cement. -- JM 
        IT ALWAYS GETS INTERESTING 
        WHENEVER MEN DISCUSS SHORT VS LONG... (010400) 
        From: "Dot & Bill Shepherd" 
        <billdot10ss@prodigy.net> 
        Subject: more on wingtips 
        To add more fuel to the fire on Short vs. Stock wingtips, here is some 
        results on my Swift . These tests were done back when I had a 150 Lyc. 
        When I first put the short tips on I found climb rate was down considerably 
        at 85 MPH. So I switched back to the stock tips, then noticed that climb 
        time to cruise altitude was no better than with short tips! I switched 
        back to the short tips and did more thorough climb tests and found that 
        at my normal climb speed the rate of climb was the same. At about 100/105 
        and above I could not measure any difference in climb rate using a stopwatch 
        and altimeter. Also even more interesting, was no difference in stall 
        speed. Switching to short tips you loose a fair amount of wing area, so 
        what is going on! After pondering this for a while I talked with a friend 
        who was pretty deep into aerodynamics and his explanation was that shorter 
        aspect ratio wings with the same airfoil stall at a higher angle of attack, 
        thus producing more lift per sq. ft. of wing area (and more drag) at that 
        angle of attack. The absolute ceiling will be reduced with the short tips-but 
        only when the climb or cruise airspeed (indicated) drops to 105MPH. Other 
        benefits of short tips are faster roll rate, takes up less hangar space, 
        and one other neat surprise-shorter landing rollout. How can that be! 
        The lower aspect ratio wing hasless ground cushion and the tires don't 
        skip along as much after touchdown and allows you to start braking sooner 
        if needed. I noticed this when switching the tips back and fourth during 
        testing. One last comment, a good set of stock tips is much prettier. 
        -- Bill 
        (Editor's note: My lovely 
        bride Erin has a nice set of short wingtips on her Swift that she would 
        LOVE to trade straight across for a pair of stock tips. In fact, I've 
        got an extra set of short tips in storage too! Any takers???) 
        KIND-OF A DRAG... 
        (010500) 
        From: Bill Harris <Temcowilly@aol.com> 
        Subject: Re: January #4 GTS Internet Update 
        For your info - Kent Koester years ago went thru the Stanford research 
        library which had W W 2 's Moffett field wind tunnel data on drag on everything 
        you could think of. The venturi ( large ) at 120 mph took 6.5 hp to drag 
        it thru the air. Bill Harris 
        THE NEXT BIG THING: RETRACTABLE 
        PITOT TUBES??? (080300) 
        Subj: Fwd: Speed 
        From: Jerry Swartz <JSw7211963@aol.com> 
        << Here's something to think about. Some fellows found that removing 
        the pitot tube from an RV increased the speed by 4 mph, so they are making 
        it retractable!!! >>  Now here is something you could market, 
        Jim. Use the GPS for cruise altitude and the pitot for pattern altitude. 
        Jerry 
        Jerry, 
        We-e-ll, many Swifts have been modified with a pitot directly out of the 
        leading edge of the wing. (no drag) All that was different was the airspeed 
        indication was not very accurate! -- Jim 
        CHANGING THE PITOT TUBE 
        IS NOT THE ANSWER... (080300) 
        Subj: Re: Speed 
        From: Jerry Swartz <JSw7211963@aol.com> 
        Jim 
        Have patience!!! Someday I may catch up, but don't plan on it. Wouldn't 
        give up my original pitot for ten mph more speed. Not that many of them 
        left around. Jerry. 
        Jerry, 
        Changing the pitot tube is NOT the answer! A bogus pitot tube may well 
        give an indication of 150 mph cruise, but the airplane is not going any 
        faster! The easiest and most legal way to increase speed is to run the 
        CG at the aft limit and get a Sensenich Prop. -- Jim 
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